Thursday, December 24, 2009

(NL-0050) CI Disaster – A very long Rant.

My honeymoon with Cochlear is over, that’s for sure.

Here’s my opinion: The N5 BTE really sucks. At least it does for me.

It’s Christmas Eve Day (is 1:26 AM daytime?) and I’ve finally (finally!) gotten around to posting here. Many apologies to the folks who have been after me for updates. Last anyone knew, I was doing just dandy. That changed some-what.

This post is long. Be warned, you will need some time to read it all.

Normally I am pretty easy going and have learned to deal with things I can’t change in life. But this time, there are so may issues with the new Nucleus 5 BTE and all the outside hardware that I’m not going to be “nice” here. I just can’t.

On December 4, I visited my Surgeon to make sure that the incision was healed up enough to activate and wear the BTE (behind the ear) unit. A few days before that, I had noticed I had a pretty bad headache every morning when I woke up. My headaches seem to have been caused by the way I sleep.

I sleep on my belly and have to have one ear or the other on the pillow. I know for a fact that I swap sides (turn my head over) every hour or so, as my wife is a light sleeper and tells me so.

Since I had the left side implanted, I have been “forcing” myself to sleep on the right ear for a full eight hours.

Aside from the fact that I never really got a good sleep (waking up every hour or so), I seem to have a very heavy brain.

I know this because many folks have told me my head is full of rocks and rusty old metal sprockets. Some of those people have even suggested the presence of lead, saying my head is indeed very dense. Lets hear it for gray matter.

At any rate, my right CI is forever trapped between my dense, heavy brain and my well packed and very dense feather pillow. The pressure I had been putting on the right CI seems to have been causing my headaches. The doctor said I could now try and alternate. I did and this had immediate positive results for me (no more throbbin’ noggin). There's a lesson in that for all you prospective bi-lateral folks.

The other issue I brought up to my doctor was that the new CI incision seemed to be healing up a lot slower than the first one. Even though the outside of the incision looked ok, I continued to “bleed out” when I was asleep. Fortunately, I have been using old pillow cases for the last month. The bleed outs stopped a few days ago, thank goodness. Healing up fine now.

On December 5, I went to have my new CI activated. More problems.

A big problem is that Cochlear did not ship the hospital a complete CI kit. I had a Nucleus 5 implant put in for the left side (my right side is an N4). The N5 is so new that Cochlear seems to be having trouble getting enough product out the door. As a confirmed Test Engineer, I know the problems that come with trying to manufacture and ship a new product, especially a medical device. It’s much more of a challenge than climbing Mount Everest. Trust me on this.

My kit shipped without a backup BTE. It shipped without rechargeable batteries or a battery charger. It shipped without an audio cable that has an isolation transformer (Cochlear calls it a “mains cable”). God knows what else it is missing. I was not and still am not a happy camper.

The backup BTE was found a couple of weeks later, apparently roaming the halls of the hospital where I had the implant put in. That BTE was finally delivered to my audiologist on December 8 (more on that later).

Also, as I discovered, the N5 system does not have rechargeable batteries, because Cochlear is waiting for FDA approval (the USA seems to be the only place that can’t get rechargeable batteries yet). I am thoroughly unhappy with this situation. It could be YEARS and YEARS before the FDA gets it’s butt in gear and makes an approval. I’m not gonna buy batteries for all that time. It’s wasteful, not environmentally friendly, and dang expensive.

And things just get better (not).

The initial activation and mapping went ok. But the N5 BTE really, really, really (did I say “really”) is not at all what I had expected or wanted.

The N5 is smaller, but the same weight of the N4. It is water resistant (a very good thing). But, in almost every other way, it fails to give me any reason to use it.

There is no longer a display to show the state of the BTE. Just idiot lights. It’s completely impossible to open the “latch” of the audio accessory socket unless you happen to be carrying a screwdriver with you (and yes, the CI kit comes with a screw driver).

I find it totally appalling that, unless I have a tool handy, I literally have to disassemble the N5 BTE just to plug in an audio cable. I use my audio cable about 20 to 30 times a day (with my PC). I also use it for my IPOD. It’s totally insane to have to carry around a tool to use a BTE. Simply insane.

The design of the BTE is such that Cochlear placed the “on/off and change program” button butt-up-next to the coil assembly wire. I don’t know about the average person, but I have large fingers. It’s very difficult to press or even find that button. I can’t imagine the effort elderly folks will have to undertake. I can’t see anyone with even mild arthritis operating an N5.

But wait.. the N5 comes with a remote and that’s what the remote is for, right? Big easy buttons? Simple interface? No problem, right?

Yeah, right.

Aside from the fact that I carry a phone and an IPOD with me at most times, I can’t see why on earth I also need to carry a remote for my BTEs. The remote does not come with a case or a belt clip (of course you can buy an over priced case from Cochlear, but you won’t get one in the CI kit (what were they thinking?).

And the user interface on the remote must have been written by several drunken monkeys.

I hold five engineering degrees. I still (after a month) cannot find the functions I want to find on the remote. The menu system is completely un-intuitive. It does not use any mainstream icons or tools that I’ve ever seen, and it doesn’t seem to hold a charge for more than a couple of days (where as my TV remote can go for a couple of years between battery changes)…. Oh and there’s no battery that you can replace. You have to use AC or plug it into your computer to charge it. I know that the internal battery is not going to last as long as the BTEs or the implant.

So what happens after 3 years and the Lithium Ion battery croaks? I guess I’ll have to shell out for a new remote.

And…. when you plug the remote into a windows PC for charging, the PC asks for a driver, which, of course Cochlear does not provide and does not mention that you would need.

Actually, I’m really surprised that the PC-to-remote charger cable connects to the USB data lines. Why on earth would it need to do that? Does Cochlear intend to allow me to upload/download data into the device? I think not. So now I have had to modify my PC to ignore the driver request. Maybe later I’ll hack into the remote and see if I can reprogram that GUI (graphical user interface). It really sucks, and that’s the nicest thing I can say about it.

And, get this, there’s a menu selection to “reset” the BTE.

--- RESET! ---

Why would I ever, ever need to, or want to, reset a BTE? Is Cochlear telling me that the BTE can lock up (think Windows on a PC)? Can a BTE scramble itself so that the firmware inside of it just gets “lost” … ????? Jeepers!

Take it from an old Engineer; anytime you see a “reset” function on a medical device (or any other device), it’s a bad, bad, bad sign. It usually means that the design is not robust. In my opinion, there’s no way to put a positive spin on that. Sorry.

Oh, and you can reset the remote too.

Funny, but my very complex TV remote does not have a reset button. I wonder why?

My right N4 maps were transferred to the new N5. It seemed to work ok. But later on, when I used the phone with my audio cable and PC, it was very apparent that the sounds I hear with the N5 are not the same as the sounds with the N4. Don’t know why. Something needs tweaking.

And….. the saga continues….

I had to go to Santa Barbara to visit with one of my clients. This was the day after the missing N5 (for the right side) was found and programmed. So off I went on my trip with two new N5s and a remote controller.

I had the left N5 activated on December 5. The right side N5 on December 8.

On December 10, at about 10 PM, while watching TV in my hotel room, my left side went completely quiet. Dead silent.

That’s not a good thing when you are 250 miles from home and you didn't bring your backup BTEs (stupid me).

The left side N5 BTE seemed ok. It would respond to the remote. It responded to all on-board BTE button commands. I could see on the remote that the microphone was picking up sound (there is a somewhat crude sound meter on the remote). However, the BTE insisted that it could not communicate with the left side implant. I was really concerned that the implant had stopped functioning. To make matters worse, I had not taken my N4 BTEs as a backup, so I had to wait until I got back home to verify that my implant was not damaged.

I tell you, it’s a hard thing on the mind to have just had an implant and then, without warning, to think that it has failed. Every thing I could test on the BTE pointed to one of two things: the BTE output to the transceiver coil was bad or the implant was bad. Not a set of choices I wanted to see.

Fortunately, it was the BTE’s driver output to the coil that was bad. After I came home I found that my implant worked just fine with my N4. But I am now very, very concerned with the reliability of this new N5 BTE. It was only seven days from turn on to failure. Seven days. That’s really disturbing.

Well, on to other issues (oh yes, there are more!)….

Today I bought a bluetooth ear piece. On it’s website, Cochlear states:


Bluetooth Friendly

For safe hands-free connectivity. The intelligent design of the auto telecoil allows it to automatically detect sound from a Bluetooth headset when it’s worn on the ear.


And if you believe that, I know of a big bridge in San Francisco that I can sell to you. Only ten bucks.

No, the BTE does not detect sound from the bluetooth headset.

Well, I take that back. It does detect the sound, but only if I remove the headset from my ear and physically hold it against the BTE (a distance of about 1/4 inch). So, yeah, it works, but it’s not hands free. You have to hold the bluetooth headset at all times.

I can get better sound by leaving the N5 in normal mode (T-coil off) and holding my phone up the BTE (but the sound still is bad).

And speaking of phones. It is well known that 3G phones don’t work well with T-coils. My phone is a SideKick. It makes a heck of a racket with a T-coil.

With the N4 BTE, I can not use the T-Coil and so I just place the phone next to the N4 BTE and it sounds great. When I do this with the N5, the phone audio sounds really tinny and garbled. So bad, in fact, that I can’t use my phone at all with the N5. Some improvement, eh?

Ok, well, there are more issues I have and I am sure I will discover many more in the next few months, but I’ll stop at this point.

Right now, I am wearing my N4 BTEs. One is beige colored, the other one is gray. My wife can’t stand the color mismatch ( heh heh!). But I can hear fine with them. They are easy to operate and easy to use. I see no reason to ever want to use the N5s.

My left N5 has been sent for repair. I refuse to use the right side N5 until I get the left one back, and even then, I can’t say that I will use the N5s at all.

I really believe the N5s were designed with children in mind. Why else would there be the following features?

  • Smaller than N4 (but weighs the same)
  • Can lock the battery case (so kids can open it and swallow the batteries)
  • Can lock the button controls via remote (kids love to push the buttons)
  • Can control the BTEs via remote (parents can control the BTEs on a child)
  • Audio cable socket cannot be opened without a screwdriver

I can easily see how the N5 would be a God-Send for parents with infants and toddlers. I know I am the wrong demographic for the N5 as I'm a "way too critical Engineer."

In my opinion, anyone but small children are the wrong target demographic for the N5, and that’s sad as I know Cochlear put 2 or 3 years of R-and-D into the N5. My advice to all is to stick to the N4s for now.

In conclusion, given the time of the year, I end on this cheery note:

Bah, Humbug!

…dan…

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47 comments:

melissa said...

Wow this sure concerns me as I will have to upgrade to N5 in maybe 2/3 years. Let's hope they would improve the N5 by then! Have you made an official complaint to Cochlear? The New N5 seems rubbish for people older than maybe 10... Can you not give your N5 backs and wear the Freedoms for the time being until they improve?

(e said...

Interesting article. People often don't realize or understand (myself included) how difficult and long the process of using a CI can be. How frustrating it must be go through the surgery and everything and not having it work properly.
Thanks for posting.

(e

Elizabeth said...

I laughed, somewhat helplessly, especially at "And the user interface on the remote must have been written by several drunken monkeys. "

But Gah! what a mess all around. Just filled out our paperwork to upgrade to the new N5 processors, but am now looking fondly at Li-Li's great big honking but reliable Freedoms.

I'm really sorry, and do hope your N5s resolve to do much better in the New Year.



Li-Li's Mom

Dan Connell said...

For Melissa: Thanks for your comments.

Yeah, I think it would be wise to wait a couple of years before upgrading. And I am thinking seriously about trading back the N5s for N4s, but there are times when I could really use a water resistant device (exercising or when working outside). So I'm on the fence about trade-ins.

I've also talked directly to the regional marketing person... but my concerns about the device seems to bounce off her. Bummer. Guess I'll have to write a letter to Coclear.

...dan...

Dan Connell said...

Hello (e : That's quite a clever signature logo :-)

It's great that my CI (the inside part) is just fine. And I'd highly recommend that people get the N5 implant as opposed the the N4. I don't know if cochlear will implant the N5 and supply N4 BTEs, but the N5 is so much thinner. I can't even tell it's there. The N4 "sticks out" about 1 mm or so.

But you are correct in stating that using a CI is not a cake walk sometimes. In this instance its more like sour lemons!

Cheers,

...dan...

Dan Connell said...

Hello Elizabeth ! Wow, Li-Li is growing and looks so cuuute! :-)

I do stick by my opinion that the remote and the user interface must have been designed by inebriated simians. Hard to explain its existence otherwise.

Literally, the first thing I tried to do with the remote was to use my finger on the screen (like an IPOD or IPhone), but then I discovered the screen was a plain old outdated (and inexpensive) LCD. Took me several looks to actually see the buttons around the LCD as they are low profile and exactly the same color as the case (no contrast at all!)

That said, the N5's may be great for Li-Li and for you as a parent. I really think that most of the new N5 features are created for children. Hopefully, my N5 BTE failure is not a design flaw or something that escaped factory testing. Could just be a rare but statistical electronic failure. Hope so.

Have a good one!

...dan..

PinkLAM said...

Oh man, Dan! We're in the process of trying to get insurance to cover the cost of the Nucleus 5 (at least for one ear). It was recommended by my surgeon because I was having some pain and he attributed it to the heavy Freedom, but I have a feeling he just told us this because he really wasn't sure what was causing the pain.

My audiologist was kind enough to let me try hers. I was happy with it for the short amount of time I used it. Okay, in all honesty, the first time I used it I could not get it to work at ALL. That darn auto-off feature made it turn off every 5 seconds! Anyway, once she turned off the auto-off it worked pretty well for me. I didn't have any trouble with the remote and actually like being able to see what I was doing, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. The key to open the accesory cover? Fingernails! ;)

That said, your blog definitely made me hesitate and not want to jump in so quickly. I think some people are reporting its wonderful-ness just because it's new and hyped. My audiologist actually told me that she thinks it was released prematurely in a race against Med-El, with the Opus (which I guess they're finding is hard competition). I'm sorry, this comment is getting realllly long but I don't intend on it ending yet!
She basically said (I'm going to us ME for Med-El and CA for Cochlear) it went down like this(advertisement-wise):
ME- Ours is smaller!
CA- Well, now ours is smaller AND only uses 2 batteries!
ME- ours has a remote!
CA- Well, ours has a remote that can work both ways!

and so on.. She also said that Cochlear will probably release new software for the Nucleus 5 in the next couple of years but, because they didn't want Med-El stealing all their potential clients, they went ahead and released it now.

I used to have a Sidekick, and you're right, the T-coil with it is absolutely awful. I switched to Verizon, and now have the EnV Touch, which I can hear better on both with and without T-coil.Just food for though.. When I used the N5's T-coil, I did notice it was much better. But when I first read that Bluetooth claim, it definitely made me roll my eyes. It's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Now I'm torn. Do you think it's worth getting?

PinkLAM said...

Oh, and by the way, I couldn't tell if you knew this from your blog- the N5 has same amount of water-resistance as the N4. It's not until you get rechargable batteries that it becomes more water resistant...

Dan Connell said...

Heya PinkLAM,

I'd recommend waiting a year and see how Cochlear addresses the feedback from the people who are using it now. I think that you will see a lot of improvement after that time, both in functionality, ease of use, and reliability.

As to the water resistance issue... I have not heard that the NEMA rating depended on the rechargeable battery. I'll look at that. Gotta run!

...dan...

sara said...

Rechargeable battery may be required because the zinc airs need air to function?

Dan Connell said...

Hi Sara !

Yeah, I thought of that too (needing O2 for the button batteries). But the NEMA rating is for "splashed" water, not immersion in water. So my assumption is that it's easy enough to provide a path for O2 with a baffle plate while still keeping the NEMA rating. I think I'll ask the Cochlear folks.

Cheers,

...dan...

Karen said...

Wow, that's a lot to go through! I hope it gets worked out for you. There are some days that I think I'd go for an implant and other days, like after reading what you are going through, that I think I'm ok with hearing aids.

PinkLAM said...

Dan- It's on Cochlear's site- is this what you're referrring to?

"Relax around water with the world’s most water resistant sound processor
The Nucleus 5 Sound Processor is the world’s most water resistant, allowing you to relax around water or play by the pool. With the industry’s only International Protection Ratings of IP443 [http://products.cochlearamericas.com/cochlear-implants/nucleus-5-system/references], and IP573 [http://products.cochlearamericas.com/cochlear-implants/nucleus-5-system/references]* for water resistance, your sound processor can keep up with your active lifestyle."

and the * is...*With rechargeable sound processor battery option. This options is currently unavailable in the United States, pending FDA approval.

(here's the link http://products.cochlearamericas.com/cochlear-implants/nucleus-5-system/smallest-sound-processor )

Karen- If/when you do get a CI, wait until you're completely sure and it is, in fact, something YOU want. My mom had wanted me to wait until summer to get my 2nd CI, and after surgery I had some really bad dizziness. I missed a lot of school, and my mom was constantly telling me, "I told you so!" Yes, she was right, but I could live it with it knowing I followed my gut. And now I am quite glad I did- that summer was a busy one!

Dan Connell said...

Hi PinkLAM,

Ok, now I see where the confusion is ... there are two different IP ratings for the BTE... IP443 and IP573. I thought there was only one rating.

The second number in the rating is what you want to look at concerning water (see tables at http://www.aquatext.com/tables/ip_ratings.htm).

The BTE is splash resistant with the zinc-air batteries (IP443), and, with rechargeable battery, you can dump it into the pool up to 30 minutes IP573 (but I'd never try that).

I "think" that the added protection is for the battery case only. since the rechargeable part just slips into the battery external case. So it seems like the most damage that could be done is that you would just kill the zinc-air batteries if you dumped the BTE in water. I say "think" because I haven't seen a physical rechargeable battery yet.

Thanks for pointing this out :-)

...dan...

Dan Connell said...

In Reply to Karen (so sorry for the late response!)...

It took me years and years and many threats form my wife (heh heh!) to get the first CI. Wow, what a difference. I never did like hearing aides, mostly because they are so dang uncomfortable in my ears and they always felt so unnatural... and then eventually, HAs just could never put out enough for me to use them.

But the CI (internal parts) and the N4 BTEs have been great. I'm near 100% now on the "blind" word recognition tests. Doing good there.

If your doctor recommends CIs for you, and you feel good about CIs and have a good, well grounded set of post operative expectations, then go for it :-) And if you like your HA's that's great too :-)

In my case, it was CIs or nothing ( actually it was nothing + divorce! ha ha! just kidding, maybe! )

Cheers,

...dan...

Michelle said...

I'm so glad you put this out there.... If I'd gone bilateral, I would have NEVER been able to describe the chaos you are going through appropriately enough to get someone to help me figure it out.... and my sub audiologist presented the idea of upgrading to me and seemed a little defensive for the FDA (I know...seriously...) when I bemoaned the lack of rechargables... I found that out from a CI group online. There are several engineer guys on there that love to get down and dirty (okay.. not really) with the tech talk. My new mapping...powerful but kind of stinks... only gets 10 hours with a rechargable... and using disposables only lasts a little more than a day... just can't imagine having to buy batteries that often! I think I'll be content to wear a HA (have the Naida ordered...) at least until they improve. I just can't understand why Cochlear had to rush this out there as an unfinished product.

Other than that... what is bilateral hearing like??? :)

Dan Connell said...

Hey Michelle !

You wrote "Other than that... what is bilateral hearing like???"

Um... well... it's, um... different !

I'm going to leave you in limbo here on the details. That's for my next posting !

Cheers and Sorry to make you wait!

...dan...

Dan Connell said...

Many apologies to Tina (funnyoldlife).

This is a repost of a comment she made. I've found it necessary to remove a couple of references.

funnyoldlife said...

Hi Dan

I've just come across your blog and am sorry to hear what you're giong through. I'm about to have a CI and keep a HA in the other ear. I've always been deaf so am not expecting too much but am hoping I will do well. I've opted for a Nucleus 5 but after advice from another electrical engineer (name deleted).

I'll go for another CI, probably AB. Your experience has helped reinforce that I'm making the right decision. (web page reference deleted).

Good luck and hope it gets sorted out in the end.

Tina

Dan Connell said...

Hi Tina,

Thanks for reading and I appreciate your comments.

Humm... (I'm thinking thoughtfully here)... I've seen the (name deleted) blog before and have some e-mail from the same, but I can't recall that it was ever said "yea or nay" on the N5 and the web location you point to is not about the N5 or even Cochlear. So maybe I'm slightly confused here as to your meaning or I have missed something somewhere. That seems to happen to me a lot these days!

On my end, I'm not saying that anyone should outright avoid an N5, just that I believe the N5 is not quite ready for the masses or for me. The implant part seems to work well; it's the external N5 BTE and remote system that I think needs some work and some time.

My thinking is that, in a year or so, the bugs will be worked out and the N5 will be a much better product than it is now, perhaps it will even be re-released as an N5 version 2.

But, I also would not recommend that you wait a year for a CI either.

Hopefully my N5 BTE will be returned from the repair department soon and I'll try wearing it again (die hard engineer that I am!).

Cheers!

...dan...

PinkLAM said...

Hey Dan-
I posted a link to this post on my blog. I just realized I should've probably asked permission-is it okay? I can take it down, if you'd prefer.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info. I won't be in any rush to upgrade my son's freedom processors. we like them just fine!

Kim said...

Dan,
I can understand your problems with the N5. Our son received the freedom just weeks after it was FDA approved. It came with two body worn processors because the BTE's weren't approved or ready to be distributed in the US. We went through five or six receivers in the first month. The one they sent for his activation was defective and wouldn't even turn on. His N24 failed six months later and by that time the freedom was working better. It was a completely different experience the second time and we were able to use the BTEs. As a parent I was hopeful that this smaller design with some new features would be better, but as of right now there are no FM systems to utilize with it. It is unfortunate that they were in such a hurry to get the N5 out that they made the same mistakes they did when they released the Freedom.
Look forward to hearing how the N5 works out for you.

Dan Connell said...

Hi PinkLAM... that's fine. I appreciate the heads up, but you can link anytime :-)

Cheers,

...dan...

Dan Connell said...

Hi Kim,

Yeah, I know the feeling about the release-before-it's-ready thing. Also, I'm seriously thinking of making a hack blue tooth for my N5. I have some ideas I'm toying with now. I think I could also do the same with an FM system ... humm.. sounds like another project for me :-)

Cheers,

...dan...

Kim Heng said...

Hi Dan,

I'm glad I stumbled onto your blog! I have a question for you since I'm not a techie like you!!! I was told that N5 system can use 161 channels by the local Cochlear rep. Do you know if that is being implemented on your processor? I wonder how beneficial it is and if I should upgrade my child.

Thanks

Dan Connell said...

Hello Kim Heng and thanks for reading my blog.

I think you might be refering to what is called "Potential Pitch Percepts"... and your information is correct, there are 161 for the N4 and the N5. There are 24 Electrode/current Channels (which are not the same thing as pitch percepts).

I think that by "upgrade" you mean to say "We want to move from N4 BTEs to N5 BTEs" and you do not actually want any N4 implants removed and replaced with N5 implants :-)

As far as "upgrading" from N4 to N5 for an improvement in Pitch Percepts only; as far as I can tell (after a quick web search), the N4 and N5 are the same, so there would be no advantage in doing an upgrade just for that feature. My N4 and N5 BTEs are "mix-n-match"; that is to say, I can use an N4 BTE with my N5 (left) implant and I can use an N5 BTE with my N4 (right) implant.

I do think there could be a definite advantage to moving to N5 BTEs for a toddler or child. As I've stated in my post, I can see many advantages for parents and children in the new N5 design and operation. For me, personally, I'm not so much in need of all the N5 system features, excepting for the much improved water resistance it offers. I am sure that I will be using the N5 BTEs during exercise and when I am outside working (sweating) in the Las Vegas sun!

Cheers,

...dan...


Disclaimer : While I am a bit over educated in electronic engineering development, design, and test side of things, I do want to state that I am not a medical expert or any other sort of expert on CI's ( I only claim to know about my own experiences and how they relate to me personally ). That said, I do also have a formal instructional background in human biology and, more to the point, a background in the biology of how nerves transmit/receive and I've worked in medical hospitals with many different electronic devices. I do tend to turn to my wife (a Phd, Medical Doctor, and Registered Nurse) or other qualified medical professionals where I find my knowledge lacking.

Anonymous said...

How is your battery life with N5 compared to N4?
With disposibles I got approx 3 1/2 days with N4. With N5 (same daily usage time) I get barely 2 days. This seems to work out to N4 gets 7 days from 6 batteries, N5 gets 6 days from 6 batteries. Hardly "better battery live" claimed for N5. ?

Dan Connell said...

Hello Anonymous !

As far as the battery life goes, I have not used my N5 enough to know how the battery life compares to my N4... however, I think your evaluation of battery life needs some clarification. Here we go:

Using your reported usage....

Your N4 uses 3 batteries over 3.5 days, that means the N4 uses 1.166 battery per day, on average.

Your N5 uses 2 batteries over 2 days, that means the N5 uses, on average, 1 battery per day.

1 battery per day (N5) is less than 1.166 batteries per day (N4), so the N5 is using less batteries per day, month, and year...

N4 --> 426 batteries per year
N5 --> 365 batteries per year
Savings 61 batteries per year

So there is, according to your usage, some battery life improvement between N4 and N5...

Thanks for writing.

...dan...

PinkLAM said...

Dan- I'm just a kid with a calculator, but I think you may have messed up with your math. I'm going to use me as an example- I get 1 day day out of 3 batteries on the left and 2 days out of 3 on the right. (not so much anymore, but it's easier to understand with different numbers)

So you would do #batteries/#days
Left side: 3/1= 3 batteries per day
Right side: 3/2= 1.5 batteries per day

Anon got 3.5 days w/ the freedom, so:
N4: 3/3.5=.857 batteries per day
N5: 2/2= 1 battery per day

So anonymous actually had better battery life with the Freedom. Sorry, I couldn't help myself- it was bugging me :P

Foge said...

Dan;

Thanks! When I look at my own figures it is obvious! Backward mind I guess. I agree with your thoughts about "rush to market". I looked at my N5, as received to get familiar with "microphone protectors". Could not see anything and did not want to poke at it. Further researsh revealed that mine (and I do not know how many others) were shipped without them. They are awaiting arrival from Australia. Do not depend on "water resistance" too soon! Thanks for your blog. It has been very informative and interesting.

Dan Connell said...

It's New Year's eve day here. I have some guest that I'm driving around and will go to the Las Vegas Strip to watch the fireworks, so I'm prob not gonna be posting comments or making any responses until tomorrow or the next day.

Happy New Ear ... um.. new Year !

...dan...

Anonymous said...

Hi Dan,
I'm new to your blog and a parent of a 3 year old with bilateral CIs. He was implanted with a single Freedom in 2007 and just got the N5 this November with his second implant. Our initial plan was to use both new N5s as primary units and keep his Freedoms as backups. Ah, how things change.
You blog was right on, and I'm sorry for your frustration. I just had to comment because I thought it was funny (ha ha) to hear you say you figured the N5 was designed with children in mind...must be great for parents of young kids who like to eat batteries and pull apart processors. But our thoughts with our "advance" to the N5 were just the opposite! We have posted comments elsewhere saying that we figured the N5 was made for adults who want remote control access to their CIs, auto-telecoil options, etc and not for parents of small children. Hmmm, wonder who Cochlear really did have in mind?

We find some of the options with the N5 completely bothersome. Yes, our son would get better battery usage with only 2 disposable batteries vs 3 in the chamber with the Freedom. However, we too believe in rechargeable batteries, so we are not using the N5s on a daily basis because of the waste we create with disposable batteries. And, just to add more to that story, the reason the FDA in the U.S. has not approved Cochlear's new rechargeable batteries for the N5 is that the FDA is reviewing ALL rechargeable batteries used in the U.S. So it is not the Cochlear battery alone that is under scrutiny...which will likely only make for a longer process.
We find the fact that there is no way to lock out the telecoil option our biggest nuisance. (Can you use your engineering skills to figure out a way to disable this feature, please??) Our son is not yet using the phone (other than on speaker with grandparents), and we have not utilized telecoil yet. However, with the N5, the telecoil turn-on indicator light is the same identical color and timed light blink as the telecoil turn-off indicator. So, should you happen to try to change programs and accidentally enable the telecoil, you have no way of knowing this occurred unless you are looking at the remote.

And, ah, the precious remote. Why on earth would I want to send my son to school or daycare with a $250 gadget when something as inexpensive as a hat gets misplaced on a weekly basis? The problem with NOT sending him to daycare with the remote is that the daycare is located in a church facility with telecoil loops. See the problem we have?

Don't even get me started on having to carry around a special tool everywhere we go. Let's see, larger purse for disposable batteries, remote control, special tool. We take our chances and choose not to lock it...when he is wearing his N5s, that is.
Anyway, hopefully we will one day have all of our issues resolved and can look back and laugh. We do like the slimmer fit of the N5. And thankfully, we have not had any coil problems with the Litewear features on the N5 like we had early on with the Freedom Babyworn gear. It's only been a month and a half, and we have our fingers crossed.

Best of luck to you, Dan! Hang in there. I hope Cochlear takes your (and our) suggestions for improvement to heart! I look forward to following your journey.
Laura B.

Meghan said...

very interesting read. When the N5 came out, I checked out Cochlear's website to get the info on it. And TWICE I have requested the N5 info packet as well (and never got it... um..). But while the N5 looks good and is thinner and all, I'm still going to choose Advanced Bionic's implant for myself whenever that darned Medicaid finally approves of my getting an implant. And now, reading this blog entry about the N5... somehow this further assures my decision to go with Advanced Bionics (I'm also impressed with AB's speech processing strategy options and of their coming out with a new strategy whenever FDA approves of it for US use). I don't give a crap if N5 has a remote for it.. bah! I hated the SoundPilot remote when I tried Phonak's Naida, it was just too much effort/work to use the SoundPilot just to switch settings or whatever with the Naida, I preferred my older remote which has buttons for different settings... just push 1 for normal, 2 for noise, 3 for telecoil, perfect! Soundpilot, I had to go through different programming options before I could get to the one I wanted to use, etc. And N5's remote seems to sound similar to the SoundPilot so.. no thanks. I'd rather not have a remote anyway, I have enough junk in my pockets as it is.

Hopefully you get all your issues with the N5's worked out somehow. I do hope Cochlear listens to their N5 clients and improve them to be better functioning devices for EVERYONE and not just suitable for young kids.

For me, really, it all comes down to speech processing strategies and I just feel like AB is more focused on that than Cochlear is, just from the research I've done. Cochlear just repackaged the Freedoms for the N5, making them slimmer and whatnot, and added in very little improvements to their speech strategies but not much.

Dan Connell said...

Hello PinkLAM !

Jeeze... you know things are tough all over when someone with a Math degree messes upas bad as I did (heh heh!) ... thanks for catching that.

Also many apologies to anon. I need to remember not to swap numerator and denominator and also need to remember not to drink my mouthwash after I brush my teeth in the morning ;-)

More about batteries later...

Happy New Year to Everyone.

Colin said...

Hi Dan,
Sorry about the N5. Its bad luck with the BTE controllers, I have just had both coils and the a few weeks later the BTE controllers go on my CI’s. But believe me your problems could be worse, don’t be annoyed that things aren’t perfect. Please be thankful for the miracle of “hearing again albeit via implants because it doesn’t look like I’m going to be so lucky.
I have binaural Nucleus Freedom implants with variable success. I had 40 years
of perfect hearing then sudden lost the lot following an ototoxic cocktail of
Gentamicin/Vancomycin aminoglycoside antiobiotics. I am the only person in New
Zealand to lose my hearing this way. The real problem for Gentamicin people is the degradation of the nerve and most people deafened this way have multiple implants, non usually entirely successful.

My first implant and also my best implanted in April 2008 however following non
auditory stimulation (NAS) in 16 electrodes and an electrical short in 2 others
this was re-implanted in April 2009. This new implant is now down to just 12
electrodes due to NAS.
My left side implant has been quite stable with a dynamic range of 55 points
however over the last 3 months this has now declined to just 15 points and I
have lost five electrodes due to NAS on this side as well.

I understand the toxic effects of Gentamicin is very complex with vestibular
(balance) and vestibulooccular (eye sight while moving) Roaring Tinnitus like a
jet engine and a Jack Hammer and daily Migraine Headaches are other significant
problems I have.

I have contacted many forums and would like to know of there is anyone else that has lost their
hearing by these antibiotics. I correspond with a few people in USA and their
experience almost mirrors' mine. They have had 4-5 implants each and no-doubt
we may one day be Deaf again.
Kind regards
Colin

Dan Connell said...

Colin!

Long time since I heard from you Buddy! Thanks for the comments. Hey, Stop putting my life in perspective, ok ? Heh heh ! (just kidding!)

Thanks again for the posting. Gives me some proper things to think on.

...dan...

Michelle said...

Dan, PinkLam is going to be a future Nobel Prize winner or cure cancer or something insanely crazy and amazing like that one day. Seriously, I'm glad I "met" her as a teen so that I won't be so intimidated in her presence ten years from now! :-P (awesome, isn't she??? can't believe she caught that math thing from YOU of all people like no big deal...love it since I think you are pretty brilliant in your own right... a little crazy too.... you should check out the comment section of my blog as she practically comes up with highly descriptive scientific/medical jargon related to getting my quirky CI back on track... it goes right over my head but I do my best to follow anyway.. ;)

Dan Connell said...

Heya Michelle!

Oh, I agree, totally... I really liked the opening line that PinkLam wrote ...

"Dan- I'm just a kid with a calculator..."

hahaha!! I'm still laughing so hard at that! I don't mind being wrong. Nothing bad about making a mistake and having someone help you find the correct answer. Just gotta have the right attitude about it.... and there is no better way to be so nicely humbled (it's still so dang funny!) than to have PinkLam on the job!

Cheers,

...dan...

Billy Koch said...

Hey Dan - interesting read because I am in the process of getting the N5 - going Bi-lateral. I currently have the Freedom on my right ear. But I noticed you indicated you use the audio cord for the PC/iPod and etc. To me those Audio cords are junk! I tried them once and then dumped them - instead I went with http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm - now those are the best thing ever. Clear as day - and utilize them with T-Coil. But good read though!

Dan Connell said...

Hi Billy,

Thanks for the link, I'll take a look-see... I've never had a problem with my audio cable. Maybe I've been deaf so long (20 years+) that I don't know good audio when I hear it :-) Heh heh.

Thanks for reading.

...dan...

PinkLAM said...

Michelle (and Dan) Y'all are too sweet :) You recognize talent when you see it! hahaha, just kidding... sort of :) I think I've got some expectations to live up to now!

And to Billy, I've used both the audio cable and Music Links. I've found a pair of not-so-cheap (but still manage to break annualy) Bose headphones are superior in sound quality to both. Don't bother with the noise cancelling feature though- it doesn't do much for those of us with CIs, requires batteries, and is just more expensive!

touringcyclist23 said...

I have a nucleus 5 and I am glad to say I have not experienced any of the problems you mentioned. I found that I can link the audio cable right to my phone and the calls sound ok to my untrained ear. It gets better over time as my brain learns to use the technology. I have never had a need to carry a screwdriver to attach the cable, just use a 1/4 turn on the battery case to expose the tab and it flips up pretty easy. I use the remote for all the functions except to turn the device on and off. I admit, the placement of the buttons near the cable was a bad idea, but I dont need to worry about it. Hope things are working out for you ok now!

Dan Connell said...

Hello touringcyclist23 ....

Glad you are not having the same issues as I had ... however, there is no way that I can see to open the audio jack cover without turning off the unit and removing the battery case... when you turn the case, it turns off the unit and the battery case has a locking "slide" (inside the audio port) that many people will lock (for kids) ... so, in my book, that's still not acceptable access. And I've asked about 20 people to see if anyone could open the audio port without a tool. No one can do it... not even with long fingernails.

All gloom and doom aside though, I have been wearing the N5s for about a month now. I don't use them when I need to use the audio cable though, I still use my N4 when I need high quality audio in ... more on the N5s in my couple of postings.

Thanks for your comments.

Best,

...dan...

Robyn said...

Wow - Dan = in your next post you say it broughtout the crazy stuff as well I would be very interested in seeing some of the crazy comments as well.

In any case - I have the freedom - I can only have one implant - my other ear is totally dead so I cannot be implanted there (they gave it a test under anaesthetic and nothing happened).

My original N22 CI failed June 2007. I was reimplanted March 2008 with the freedom, and that one failed a couple of months later. So the processor was put in a drawer. In March 2009 I was reimplanted again, and the processor taken out of a drawer and used again briefly. But it kept cutting out, so my clinic here organised DHL to send the processor back to Australia to Cochlear to be fixed.

It never got there, and hasn't been seen since (now 6 months). I have a loaner Freedom.

I'm hoping to get a new processor soon, on eof my very own, and was kind of hoping to be upgraded to the N5 processor instead of getting another Freedom.

Should this be a problem really if I only have one ear anyway? You're giving me food for thought.

Cheers
Robyn

Dan Connell said...

Hey Robyn :-)

As far as the "strange-n-crazy" comments that I have stopped posting ... It is hard that I have to censor those kind of things... I just don't see how the vast majority of those type comments can help anyone. I'm much more concerned that I would do a disservice by posting comments that contain pseudoscience or other fodder that more rightly belongs on www.snopes.com .... :-)

Concerning N5: Since you are not in the US, you can get the N5 with rechargeable batteries and so that's a real plus (at least it would be for me!) ... and I've been wearing my N5s for a bit more than a month ... I do not use the remote controller and I still use my N4 BTE with my PC if I really want to hear things a bit better. I don't think it should be any issue to use an N5 ... I would ask your clinic if your could try one out for a week or so and see how you like it.


Cheers,

...dan...

Bev said...

Hello, Dan:

I'm wondering if the phone sounded so bad because the telecoil automatically turned on when you placed the receiver near the CI.

Have my N5 upgrade for my Freedom now, and waiting for turn on. I'm trying to keep my life simple (aren't we all?) so unless it's a big improvement on the Freedom, I'll likely wait a while, and save some money.

P.S. How is the everyday sound quality? Apparently kids tell their parents that they like the sound better (than the N4).

Cheers,
Bev Biderman, Toronto.

Dan Connell said...

Hey Bev !

No, the auto telecoil is not enabled ... I eventually found the reason was that the phone volume was set too high and was causing distortion ... works pretty well now... works really well with the personal audio cable connected to my phone.

Sound quality is really good for me. I don't know if the N5 is better than the N22 or not, I stopped wearing my N22s in January ...

Things are going good.

Cheers,

...dan...

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